LOST Thoughts : ” Some Like It Hoth” ( or All the Best Fanboys Have Daddy Issues)

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Before I start, just need to get this out of my system…


( Bill Murray’s ( Nick the Lounge Singer) SNL Star Wars Song, Made for youtube by Dickkeel )

Ok… Onward! 🙂

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Miles Straume : “Mommy, can I have a quarter for the vending machine?” Bumming money off people even then! 😉
Mom ( Laura) and he are on their own, father out of the picture.
Very first look at his “gift” at an apartment complex ( I’m guessing in California…Ensino?) where he is able to “see” through the door of a man who just had a heart attack ( Mr. Vonner (?), wife Kimberly). Apartment 4…Under the White Rabbit…lies the key? White Rabbit… christianshephard-tChristian Shepard, perhaps?
He’s reading a Sports Illustrated mag with then, LA Dodgers manager, Tommy LaSorda, on the cover.
lost-sawyer-t1Sawyer asks him to remove the tape of him and lost-kate-t1Kate taking Ben to The Others… but Horace stops by before he can ditch it.
He is now in ” The Circle of Trust” , able to go out to Grid 334… Hostile Territory
Radzinski meet him with a gun and has him take the body of Alvarez, whose last thoughts were of a girl named Andrea…before a filling in his tooth “shot” him through the brain ( Good thing the ditch didn’t have a gun!) Chalk it up to magnetism, I’m assuming from the Swan.
Is his pierced, skunky punk look an homage to his role as Kid Omega in the movie, X-Men 3?
His mom is ill, he comes to her bedside with these 3 questions …
1) Why am I this way?
2) How i do the things I do
3) How come you won’t talk to me about my father
Laura says that he didn’t care about them…about you ..and that his father threw them out when he was a baby ( Or was he protecting them from the Purge…or something involving The Incident, considering the Comic Con video from last year?)
He meets a Mr. Gray and tells him that he can “talk” to his dead son, Russell. But Russell has been cremated, ashes spread out on his school’s football field. It’s much better if there is a body. Later on, he gives the man back his money because he thought if the man wanted his son to know he loved him, he should have told him when he was alive. Is this truly his inability to “talk” to Russell, because of his own “daddy issues”…or a combination of the two?
After his initial meeting with Mr. Gray, Naomi pops up out of nowhere, offering him a job with her employer , who has been watching him for some time. (Widmore) A trip to a restaurant, without a meal…just a corpse ( Felix) . He “hears” about …
Widmore
To deliver a bunch of papers,photos
Pictures of empty graves
And a purchase order for an old airplane
Wonder if the man that he was “talking’ with is the person we saw getting beat up on Ben’s video tape that he showed to Locke? And are the things that were delivered proof of ben-t13Ben’s plan…or Charles’ guilt?

Now he needs to find a very difficult man ( Ben?) to find…help will come through the number of deceased people “residing’ on the Island that can give information on his whereabouts. How much is the bounty on this man? 1. 6 million dollars. The use of “residing” is much like the way Ben said that ” Every living person on this Island will be killed” in the Season Three finale. At first, I was thinking about Dharma and the mass graves. But Naomi was looking for desmond-t1Desmond… and stumbled on the 815’s, in which she told lost-charlie-t1Charlie ” Well, you’re not really dead, are you?” Oh no… lol.
Not long after, he is abducted a week before his trip on the freighter.( There goes that fish taco! ) Men in a black van, headed by Bram…Illana’s “right hand man” on the Island! Bram “You do not want to get on that boat, my friend” …just like Caesar. Don’t know what lies in the shadow of the statue? Then you aren’t ready. Just need to stop him for working for Widmore. He wants double the money for not going …3.2 million dollars. They countered his offer by throwing him out of the van. But before they did, Bram tell him that they can answer those same three questions that he asked his mother…
Who you are
Why he has this “gift”
Know about his father
He says that Bram’s intel is old because he doesn’t care about his father anymore. Did Bram and the Gang get that “old intel” from his mother Laura’s caretaker who answered the door?
Bram told him that he is on the team that is going to win. They don’t want him to work for Widmore, Ben may or may not know about the 3.2 million dollars. So… is this a third interested party?!
He has been able to “hear” soldiers by standing over their graves. He found where danielle-t1Danielle and Karl were buried. He was able to get information from Naomi after lost-locke-t1Locke killed her. It makes you think that he can only hear with a body present. Is it the body itself? Is it the proximity to the place of death? The most curious thing in this scenario is our introduction to him ( Confirmed Dead, Season 4) . He goes to an elderly woman’s home and says what he has to do will cost extra ( much like Mr Gray). He goes into the room of her dead grandson and “hears” him there. Finds money and drugs ( similar to the kind Charlie found in the statues) , takes the cash, leaves the stash. Gives back the “extra” to the grandmother and leaves. But what is different is that he brings a vacuum-like device with him. He hasn’t needed it with any of the others we’ve seen. Was this because there was no body there? Was there a body in the wall, with the money and drugs ( I know, way out there…but hey! ) Does this device make a vacuum in time so he can retrieve those last memories? ( Clue: The picture frames change?) Since he doesn’t “chat with ghosts” but a feeling and recall of someones last thoughts, maybe my theory is only mostly dead. 🙂
For three years, he has been avoiding his father, Pierre Chang, on the Island (but his mom did stand behind him at the cafeteria three days after the Leftbacks arrived.) He finally breaks down and watches his dad, reading his baby self a nice story about polar bears. He did care. (*sniff*)
” Miles, I need you” ” You do?! ” … aww…. But it was to help drive Pierre to not get the new recruits but scientists from Ann Arbor ( Degroot Country!) . Who gets out first…why danielfaraday-tDaniel Faraday, of course! 8)

Another major player in the Milerific episode…

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Hugo ” Hurley” Reyes : He makes a nice ham and cheese with garlic mayo.
He can “talk” to the dead too…even play chess with them. Miles tells him it’s not like that. He thinks Miles is jealous because his “powers” are better that his.
He can keep a secret ( Really?) and he’s not a fan of polar bear droppings.
He got Pierre to say he likes country music ( Shotgun Willie)
Both he and Miles fathers abandoned them ( or so Miles was told). But he reconciled with his after coming back from the Island … and he wants Miles to do the same.
He is able to get Miles and Pierre talking, despite them “traveling in different circles”.
He is writing his “New and Improved” version of The Empire Strikes Back” for when George Lucas is looking for a Star Wars follow-up in a couple years.
He has concluded that Miles and his dad are like Luke and his father. That they just need to talk. Luke just overreacted when he found out his father was the equivalent of “Space Hitler” and got his hand cut off. If Luke talked to his dad, then…
The second Death Star wouldn’t have blown up
Boba Fett wouldn’t have been eaten by the sarlacc
and we wouldn’t have The Ewoks .

Now I can not stress this strongly enough, I am by no means a Star Wars expert. But wouldn’t those things, in the context of the story, be bad if they happened?

The Death Star was the headquarters of the Empire domination over the Galaxy
Boba Fett was against the Rebel Alliance . And though he was a child and didn’t fight, Boba came from the clones that were used by Senator Palpatine to destroy the Republic and turn it into an Empire. He is also the one that Lando Calrissian hands over Han Solo to at the behest of Darth Vader. To which, Han is frozen in carbonite and sent to Jabba the Hut.
The Ewoks, despite their uber-cuteness, helped Luke, Han, Leia and the rest from getting beat by the Empire..
And Luke did talk to Vader but he was only interested in killing Emperor Palpatine if it would be a Father/Son takeover of the Galaxy. Same format as before… no ” good side” at play there.

So…is this a clue as to who he is? And wasn’t he playing Mr. Eko from the dark side of the chess board? Like “The Cobra” in Expose’ that he was reading about in Nikki’s script… is the person who has been there all along, pretending to be “good” …. Himself? Yeah, I know…I’m probably wrong… but we’ll see… 😉

Other happenings
lost-jack-t2Jack is talking to a suspicious Roger Linus about Kate’s sudden interest in his son. He is erasing a blackboard with a historic Egyptian eras breakdown. Roger tells him to get lost, it’s his ‘turf”. Hey, at least it got him away from drinking beer on the swings! 🙂
” It Never Rains in Southern California” by Albert Hammond and ” Love Will Keep Us Together” by The Captain and Tennille were playing in the van.
Phil has the surveillance tape of Ben Goes to the Hostiles, Starring James and Kate. He was going to give LeFleur the benefit of the doubt (nice guy after all ?) and gets rewarded with a punch to the face. Now what?! Stay tooned… 🙂

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15 Responses so far »

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    Maybe Hurley subscribes to the Randall Graves from Clerks theory: There were a lot of innocent independent contractors on that second Death Star when the Rebels destroyed it. It seems unfortunate that there was so much collateral damage after its destruction.

    I don’t think Hurley is secretly evil. I just think he really liked Boba Fett.

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    mswendy said,

    Hi Phil,

    LOL… yeah but that would be a pretty great twist. Even right now, it’s hard to fully commit to the concept of Hurley being evil…. because he’s Hurley 🙂 …. but that’s what would make it so amazing if the writers did it (IMO) ( And that also attributes to the wonderful acting ability of Jorge)

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    Wray said,

    Ms. Wendy,

    Thanks for reminding me of Miles’ first ghostbusting event. I forgot about the fact that it seems to work differently here – no body. And if I remember correctly he asks the ghost to skedaddle, which is more than “reading their last thoughts”.

    Interesting.

    On another point, it’s always amazed me that soooo many people loved Boba Fett. Don’t get me wrong I have nothing against him, but as a kid I didn’t even pick up on his name….

    At least not until college.

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    mswendy said,

    Hi Wray!

    Yes, he did tell the “grandson” that he could go now. So, it is a bit confusing as to what are all the abilities that accompany Miles’ ” gift”.

    I remember at school, growing up, Boba Fett was mentioned often and his action figure was a “must have” . I saw A New Hope and Return of the Jedi in the theater but missed TESB because I heard Luke gets his hand cut off… and I was a bit on the squeamish side, at the time. So, I didn’t know the importance of Boba Fett until much later in life , as well. 🙂

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    Matt Murdick said,

    Hey Guys,

    Missed your podcast this week (unfortunately) but I’ve been thinking about something Miles said/did in Some Like It Hoth.

    He basically told the football players father that having the body would be better for his powers.

    Yet – in season four – the only flashback of Miles (where he visits the grandmother and gets the money out of the wall) there is no body.

    Is this an continuity error, or are they implying that he can communicate even when a body is not present? (he did say to the grandmother that is wasn’t as hard as he thought when he returned the extra money).

    Your thoughts?

    Thanks!

    Matt Murdick

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    mswendy said,

    Hi Matt,

    One thing that was different in the those instances is Miles kind of does that , scientifically speaking, “whooshie” thing when he is at the grandmother’s house 🙂 … but doesn’t at Mr. Gray’s picnic table. So, I think that the former time, he was trying and the later instance, he wasn’t because of the personal issues he had with his own dad.

    I started to think what was it that , unless there is a body in the wall, that Miles could “pick up” something in the kid’s bedroom. Miles says he doesn’t “chat with ghosts” and it is based on last memory of person. Maybe it’s that a kid’s bedroom contains the most intense “memory” to them, considering that is where they collect all their memorabilia and do their most concentrated “planmaking” of their life. Eh, just a thought.. 🙂

    But Wray brought up the point that Miles tells the “grandson” to leave when he is finished. So… is Miles being completely honest? Or is it like you said, is it a continuity error? I hope it not. Still trying to work out the Widmore banishment timeline…lol.

    Thank you for listening to the podcast. 8) We’ll be recording a new one tonight on this episode.

    Very nice web site, by the way. You are a fabulous musician. (I’m guessing you fall on the side of Laura Chang in the Jazz/ Country “debate” …lol)

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    Wray said,

    Ms. Wendy,

    Do you think we’ll get any help on the timeline (Widmore and otherwise) from the clip show? And can we believe it, unlike the “enhanced episodes”?

    I still think that denying that the pop-up’s are “canon” is a cop out – but okay…

    🙂

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    mswendy said,

    Hi Wray,

    Good question… They said that there is supposed to be additional info that we don’t have. The focus is on The Oceanic 6. With Widmore’s contact with Sun, we might get a little more about what is going on there. But I have a feeling that will be saved for the finale … or close to it. It might give us a more linear look at their journey back to the Island, much like how they did in the Season 4 Extras where you place the events of the O6 in chronological order and watch them straight through.

    LOL… yeah. I think that ABC does those but the clip shows are in hands of Darlton and TPTB.

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    Capcom said,

    Sorry that I’m so late to the party this ep, been feling yucky.

    Very insightful post as always! I’ve always loved that Bil Murray skit! I found it funny that as much as Roger hates his job, he’s still territorial about it. It’s not like he can get fired and demoted. X-D And if he did get fired and booted off the island, isn’t that what he wanted?

    Funny how Miles immediately asked his mom where his dad was, and she has the answer right back knowing why he wanted to know. I guess it’s the money that makes Miles chose Widmore’s offer over Bram’s, but I hope that we see more of this decision making process.

    Really good point about whether or not Felix is Widmore’s spy or beating victim. Thanks, I thought that I had it kind of figured out before you said that. :o)

    Yes, the thing about Noami looking for Desmond has always made me wonder. Were there duel missions? Noami finding Des and Keamy finding Ben?

    It’s said that the planet of Ewoks was orignally suposed to be a planet of Wookies, but Lucas thught he’d make a teddybear planet instead for the kids. I wish that he would have gone with his first idea, but that’s just me….and Hurley, heheh.

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    mswendy said,

    Hi Capcom,

    Hope you’re feeling better soon.

    Thanks, Cap! Yes, I love that too. All the Star Wars stuff in the episode … good an excuse as any to put up ” Nick the Lounge Singer”. 🙂

    Roger Linus is the poster boy for “Disgruntled Employee”. He’s not aware of his “win/win” situation. At least , until The Purge.

    You’re right. It seems like his mother was ready to counter whatever Miles wanted to know. It’s as if she was aware that perhaps if he goes back, he’ll end up like Charlotte?

    I forgot about Tom Friendly having the info about Widmore and the pictures and files , claiming Charles did the fake crash, that he showed to Michael ( Meet Kevin Johnson, Season 4) So, Tom might have killed Felix to get the info. Or Felix is still Ben’s guy who got beat up on the film because he was playing “double agent”. Tom either got the pictures away from him, Widmore got mad and we saw what we saw. Or he gave the pictures to Tom willingly and Widmore had him “bumped”? Or there always the option that Felix isn’t that guy in the video at all! I love LOST…lol.

    I’ve wondered that too. And did she have anything to do with Keamy’s “recruitment”. It might have been mentioned in ” Shape of Things to Come” when Ben gives Martin his stats. Must rewatch. That and because it’s a great episode… 🙂

    I didn’t know that about the Wookie/Ewok exchange. I know that lots of people did not dig The Ewoks. But in the end, they turned out to be pretty clever, made awesome tree houses and could jam like nobody’s business! 8)

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    Capcom said,

    LOL!

    You know, what if Felix worked for Bram, Widmore’s group found him and got the info, but thought that it was all Ben’s work. So that would mean that Wid and Ben don’t really know about Bram’s group, and they both think that each other did the fake wreckage, hahahahaha! The joke’s on them then and they are in for a big surprise. And what if Mrs.H. knows about them all, and is playing them all against each other because she doesn’t care who goes back to the island, as long as someone goes back to fix things? Hmm.

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    mswendy said,

    Ummm….BRILLIANT! Capcom, you rule. 🙂

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    Wray said,

    Whoa. Dude.

    Having this third party involved is messing up all my theories…..

  14. 15

    mswendy said,

    I know what you mean, Wray. Leave it to LOST to throw us more curveballs. 🙂


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