Archive for March, 2010

LOST Thoughts: S6/ep9 – Ab Aeterno or That Jacob’s a Real Corker!

ab aeterno (from the eternal) : Literally, “from the everlasting” or “from eternity”. Thus, “from time immemorial”, “since the beginning of time” or “from an infinitely remote time in the past”. In theology, often indicates something, such as the universe, that was created outside of time. *

Since this week’s title was in Latin, I thought I ‘d look up some other “abs” to discuss a few extra thoughts I had about this Ricardo-centric episode.
( If you would like to hear more, you can go to The LOST Revisited Now page and find “Ab Aeterno” , Episode 94) 🙂

ab absurdo (from the absurd): The statue being knocked over by The Black Rock and carried in so far inland… is this possible? Here is a link to an article by Popular Mechanics that let’s us know (of course, it being a “place where miracles happen!”, notwithstanding) 😉

ab antiquo (from the ancient) : It was finally confirmed that Richard was on the Island for a long time=since 1867. But thanks to the delightful Bonnie Covel over at about.com LOST blog, I have been alerted of date discrepancies. In the episode ” The Constant”, Widmore was bidding on the journal of from The Black Rock.

Here is the quote from the auctioneer about the details of the journal and its history:

“The Black Rock set sail from Portsmouth, England March 22, 1845 on a trading mission when she was tragically lost at sea. The only known artifact of this journey is the journal of the ship’s first mate, discovered among the artifacts of pirates seven years later. The contents of this journal have never been made public nor are known to anyone outside the family of the seller, Tovard Hanso. We open the bidding on lot 2342 at 150,000 pounds.”

But this week, the year of the crash on the Island was 1867, over two decades later than what is purported by the auctioneer.

So, is this a time travel issue (especially considering the episode it was featured in) ? A writing/continuity error? Was Widmore actually purchasing a fake ( yet another “con” on this show)? Love to hear what you think on the subject. 8)

ab urbe condita (a.u.c.) ( from the city having been founded) Speaking of Portsmouth, England, it was the hometown of Charles Dickens. The more I watch LOST, the more I feel like it would have been something that he would have written… or at least, very happy to read. 😉


ab epistulis
(from the letters) : The portion of the Bible that Ricardo was reading while he was in prison, was Luke Chapter 4. In it, there is the account of Jesus’ temptation by the Devil. His rejection in his own hometown, saying things like “Isn’t he Joseph’s son?” as to belittle him and his ministry . Also in this chapter, Jesus says he is the fulfillment of prophetic scripture and then expels of a devil from a possess man (much to the chagrin of the Pharisees in the synagogue). And lastly, it tells of the healing of disciple Peter’s mother-in-law and the exorcism of another man who was demon possessed.

There are two things, from this chapter, that stand out to me that parallel the episode. The first is in regard to Jesus being tempted ,by Satan, 3 times with 3 different things( to which, Jesus rejects them all) . In Ab Aeterno, we witness the temptation of Richardo, by MIB, where he’s offered a reunion with his deceased wife. Like the devil did to Jesus, MIB waves the prize in front of Ricardo. Ricardo declines the offer.

But later, it is Richard that asked Jacob for 3 different things and is told what Jacob can and cannot do. Is this telling us that Jacob is good or are we just seeing a temptation in a reverse order? Either way, Ricardo agrees.

The other is how, like the citizens of Jesus’ homestead, Ben tries to lessen Richard’s importance to the Island by saying things like he knows nothing and that Ben has known Richard since he was a twelve. So, is Ben right? Is Richard not really anyone of consequence? From what we saw these past couple weeks, I think Mr. … Sorry… Dr. Linus might be wrong in his assessment.

ab utili (from utility) : On the Blast Door Map from the Swan Hatch( thank you, Lostpedia) it mentions, written as a side thought, “Known last resting place of Magnus Hanso/Black Rock”. Well done, Kelvin and Radzinski! And as we saw, it was. But not exactly “restful” when you get pulled through a wooden cheese grater of a door by a Smoke Monster. There was also a note about “Save yourself from Hell”. Very appropriate, considering all the referencing to both save/saving and Hell this week. But this raises the question : Is it literal or figurative? I’m thinking the later… but you never can be to sure with this show. 😉

ab irato (from an angry man) : As Dogen referred to him, will we see how that angry man, the MIB, will circumvent the island and break free? Will it involve our Losties? Does he need them to go “home” ? Or does he just need to keep them separated so the protector of the “cork” can never be realized?

ab incunabulis (from the cradle ie “from infancy”) : No Squirrel Baby this week… bummer!

Oh, well ! There’s always Episode 10… coming soon. 8)


*( definitions from Wikipedia).

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LRNow News: Podcast Update for S6/Ep9 & The Bunny Awards

This week, Heath will be traveling back from North Carolina at the Jay and Jack 30 Hour Podcast to benefit Autism Speaks (donations still being taken. See http://www.jayandjack.com for details) . So, we will be moving the recording of The LOST Revisited Now for LOST Season 6, Episode 9 to Friday, March 26th at 3pm EST on Talkshoe ( LRNow Episode #95).

Also, Sunday, March 28th at 9:30 EST, the Lost Revisited Now will be hosting The Bunny Awards for Act One of Season 6 ( Episodes 1-6) on Talkshoe ( Episode 96) . Scheduled to take part along with Heath and myself are…

Donald from the Donald is LOST podcast
Matt from the Keys to LOST podcast
and
Scotty Six from the Top 6 in 6 podcast

We will be discussing our choices for categories like ” Best Reveal” , ” Biggest Mystery” , ” Most Creepy Moment” and, of course, the controversial yet entertaining “Potpourri” section. 😉

You can find any LRN episodes here at The LOST Revisited Now on Talkshoe

If you have any LOST thoughts, theories, questions and/or comments, you can contact us at : (Heath) thelostrevisited@gmail.com
and/or (Me) bunnieshatch@aol.com

Also, Heath has been asking on Twitter for their favorite scene of each episode. You can find him on Twitter @heathactor. If you want to find me, mine is @bunnieslrnow.

And you can visit Heath’s blog at heathsworld.wordpress.com for other LOST and/or LRNow podcasting info.

As always, thank you for listening! 🙂

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LOST Thoughts : S6/Ep8 – Recon or (Looking Out for) Number One with a Bullitt

I know, that alternate title sounds like a solution to a “Before and After” puzzle on “Wheel of Fortune”. Now, on to some quick thoughts about this episode. If you would like to hear some more about ” Recon”, hop on over to the Lost Revisited Now page on Talkshoe and find Episode Recon: Episode 94. 🙂

James in the flash-sideways is a cop. I had a feeling that this would be the case. However, why did he let Kate go, when he saw her with handcuffs on in LA X? Will that ” I made this birthday wish four years ago” comment he made to her become more relevant?

Smocke told James that it is ” Kill or Be Killed” atmosphere on the Island. And he stated that ” And I don’t want to be killed!”. Even though we saw Smocke was stabbed without harm, how would he/could he be killed? Is the “killing” for him be the losing of his identity i.e. becoming Locke?

Miles mentioned his father working at the same museum that Charlotte, James’s blind date, worked at. Will we see Pierre Chang anytime soon? Did he leave the Island the same time Roger and Ben did? Does Miles even know that he was on the Island? Does Charlotte?

Both Charlotte and James have occupations that required them to look for clues to solve mysteries : a cop and an anthropologist.

Will we see Miles girlfriend and will she be someone we know? Will she “go Dutch” for coffee with Sawyer?

Smokey is able to read peoples minds/memories. Is this what he did with Kate… just find something that could be “relate-able” to win her over? Is he speaking from a genuine place.. only that place is from Locke’s memories that starting to “seep out”? Either way, “Aaron having a crazy mother” talk will keep Kate from her original purpose of reuniting Claire and her baby. And if “danger surrounds this baby”,Claire “goodness” needing to be the sole influence in his life, and that it was because of her giving up Aaron that the Losties “are all paying the price” ( Claire’s dream)… I’m guessing this might not turn out well if Kate goes this route.

Double locks on the door on the sub ( Two Lockes? 😉 ) . Who/What’s behind it?
A devise to “short circuit” Smokey?
Desmond?
Walt?
Faraday from another time line?
Widmore Industries ” White Smoke in a Can”?
Any thoughts are welcome. 🙂

James is searching for Anthony Cooper in the X time line. He didn’t know who the real Sawyer was until ” The Brig” when it was revealed on the Island. Who/ what was his source of information?

As James was looking for stuff about Anthony Cooper, he was using the lure of some found property and was the person in Alabama in 1976. Now, in this episode. James ( and the newspaper clippings) said that he was 9 years old when the murder/suicide occurred. And yet, in Season One’s ” Confidence Man”, we were told that he was 8 years old. Also, in ” Every Man for Himself” , Ben asks Sawyer how old he was . James said ” 32″ to which Ben promptly says ” Don’t liiiiie.” Thus, Sawyer then returns with ” 35″. If James was 35 in 2004, that would make him 7 years old in 1976. Unless, of course, he was still lying…lol. But this would make him younger, not older, in 1976.

So, was there a “Wrinkle in Time” ( like one of the books he was reading in ” Recon”, as well as the Island)? Did the Jughead make a discrepancy in the time? Would he have made a difference if he went back on the sub with Juliet in 1974? Or is this just, sadly, an error with continuity? We shall see.

Another big, yellow flower made its way into this episode ( as well as the name ” LaFleur”). It worked for Juliet… but not Charlotte (obviously under less awkward circumstances). Sayid also brought yellow roses to Nadia in ” Sundown”, symbolizing friendship, not romance.

The flower Sawyer gave to Charlotte was a sunflower. I decided to find out its symbolism if any. According to an article (written by Kathleen Karlsen, MA) , ” Sunflowers belong to the genus helianthus, a reference to Helios, the sun god.” They were also worshiped by the Inca Indians because they represented the sun to them.

The sun, being a symbol of light, was rejected by Charlotte. Is this a clue to what “side” she was on? But she became interested in James when he said his final choice of criminal vs cop was cop ( good/light)? More questions… 🙂

The sunflower is also the state flower of Kansas. Kansas is the destination of the Ingalls family in ” Little House on the Prairie” ( as well as the home of Henry/Dorothy Gale in ” The Wizard of Oz”.) Sawyer first mentioned his viewing habits of this program to Kate, in the Season 3 Episode ” Tricia Tanaka is Dead ( as opposed to ” Stranger in a Strange Land, which I mistakenly mentioned on this week’s podcast…Oops! 😉 ). Whether it was while he was sick with mono or going through a bad break up, looks like James will seek out the pure.. the sweet… the ” good” , that is ” Little House”. Is this where he will go to, to seek out the “good” as well, on the Island?

That’s all for now. To Episode 9 or Bust! 8)

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LOST Video: The Island’s Full of Muppets

( Made for youtube by jaystao2)

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LOST Thoughts: S6/Ep7 Dr. Linus or Napoleon + Dynamite

We are now mere hours away from a new episode of LOST. In the meantime, just thought I’d talk about a couple things from last weeks episode that I forgot to mention on this week’s LOST Revisited Now podcast.

In ” Dr. Linus” , we saw, among Sawyer’s Stash O’ Stuff, a book by Chaim Potok entitled ” The Chosen” . While getting info on the novel (www. sparknotes.com) , I noticed there we many things contained in it that parallel the overall story of LOST itself such as …

It had not one main character but two and their stories ran “parallel” with each other.

The stories of two boys, both Jewish ( one a traditional Othrodox and the other a more “modern minded” Hasidic ) are told through the use of pairs, parallels, compliments and contrasts ( much like the X timeline)

Also, the was the idea of ” Silence as a path to the soul” ( Jack at the Lighthouse…staring at the ocean)

Some themes were Conflicts of Tradition vs Modernity ( Faith vs Science) and Choosing vs Being Chosen ( Free Will vs Fate).
Other parts covered in the book are: Father and Son relationships ( Daddy Issues) , Perception ( a much debated topic in the LOST community 😉 ) and suffering ( ” We are the cause of our own suffering” – Room 23, Not in Portland , Season 3).

Symbolism: Eyes and Eyeglasses ( the eye opening, Sawyer’s glasses) and the Talmud ( Book of Laws, The Rules)

On a more abstract note, we also got quite a few nods to one of the most notorious world leaders in history and his similarity to the plight of Mr. Linus. Sorry…DR. Linus. But with the high school setting and its inner “politics”, Richard and his death wish at the Black Rock, and the appearance of Jon Gries and his whispering of the trademark “YES!” as he glanced over his microwave turkey dinner, I couldn’t help but make these parallels.

One a magnetic and power hungry French General turned Emperor, turned exiled prisoner, turned leader of France again and finally, exiled prisoner… yet again. The other a little low budget teen flick with some of the most lethargic characters to ever hit the silver screen . They couldn’t be more different … and yet their similarities are astounding.

What does this have to do with LOST, you say? I say what doesn’t this have to do with LOST?

Honestly… I don’t know. Just thought it was funny. 😉

” A leader is a dealer in hope.” – Napoleon Bonaparte
[To Kip and LaFawnduh at wedding] ” I hope you guys’ experiences are unforgettable” – Napoleon Dynamite

“In politics, stupidity is not a handicap.” – Napoleon Bonaparte
” Your mom goes to college!” – Kip Dynamite

” In politics… never retreat, never retract… never admit a mistake.” – Napoleon Bonaparte
” Grab my arm. The other arm. MY other arm!” – Rex Kwon Do

” It is the cause, not the death, that makes the martyr.” – Napoleon Bonaparte
” Vote for Pedro” – Napoleon Dynamite

” Let the path be open to talent.” – Napoleon Bonaparte
” Man, I wish I could go back in time… I’d take state.” – Uncle Rico

” It requires more courage to suffer than to die.” – Napoleon Bonaparte
” But my lips hurt real BAD!” – Napoleon Dynamite

“Men are more easily governed through their vices than through their virtues.” – Napoleon Bonaparte
” Kip, I reckon you know a lot about…cyberspace?” _ Uncle Rico

“Men are moved by two levers only: fear and self interest.” – Napoleon Bonaparte
” Do the chickens have large talons?” – Napoleon Dynamite

“A man will fight harder for his interests than for his rights.” – Napoleon Bonaparte
” Nun-chuck skills… bowhunting skills… computer hacking skills… Girls only want boyfriends who have great skills!” Napoleon Dynamite

” A soldier will fight long and hard for a bit of colored ribbon.” – Napoleon Bonaparte
” Take a look at what I’m wearing, people [in sunglasses and matching American flag pants and bandana]. You think anybody wants a roundhouse kick to the face while I’m wearing these bad boys? Forget about it.” – Rex Kwon Do

“A picture is worth a thousand words.” – Napoleon Bonaparte
[To Trisha over the phone]” Really? It took me, like, 3 hours to finish the shading on your upper lip. It’s probably the best drawing I’ve ever done.” – Napoleon Dynamite

“Ability is nothing without opportunity.” – Napoleon Bonaparte
” I’ve been out making some sweet moolah with Uncle Rico.” – Kip Dynamite

“A revolution is an idea which has found its bayonets.” – Napoleon Bonaparte
” Pedro offers you his protection.” – Napoleon Dynamite

“A throne is only a bench covered with velvet.” – Napoleon Bonaparte
” Billowy’s good.” – Uncle Rico

“A true man hates no one.” – Napoleon Bonaparte
” Are you guys having a killer time?” – Napoleon Dynamite

” Among those who dislike oppression are many who like to oppress.” -Napoleon Bonaparte
” Napoleon, you know we can’t afford the fun pack! What, do you think money grows on trees in this family? Take it back! And get some Pampers for you and your brother while you’re at it.” – Uncle Rico

” Death is nothing, but to live defeated and inglorious is to die daily.” – Napoleon Bonaparte
” Napoleon, let go of me! I think you’re bruising my neck meat!” – Kip Dynamite

” Courage is like love; it must have hope for nourishment.” – Napoleon Bonaparte
” I caught you a delicious bass.” – Napoleon Dynamite

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LRNow News : Podcast Update for S6/Ep 8 and Jay and Jack 30 Hour Podcast Info

This week, Heath will be traveling to North Carolina to be , in person, on the Jay and Jack 30 Hour Podcast to benefit Autism Speaks ( I’ll be on with him around 6:45EST on Sunday the 21st, for a theory round table ) . So, we will be moving the recording of The LOST Revisited Now for Episode 8 to Wednesday at 3pm EST on Talkshoe.

If you’d like to check out the 30 podcast on March 20th and 21st, here is the schedule.

Starting on March 20th – 21st

12:00pm: Opening

12:30pm: BSG Talk With Matt & Alirio

2:00pm: Patrick Labyorteaux

4:00pm: Bethany Shady From Geronimo Jack’s Beard

5:30pm: Josh from the Josh Mister Lost Podcast, and Josh from the Lost Flashback Podcast

7:00pm: Damon Lindelof

8:00 – 11pm: Media Junkyard Lost Quizoff, USA Vs. Canada Foosball Campionship.

11pm: Jo Opinionated

12am: Tad Stone

1:30am: Ryan and Jen from The Transmission

3:00am: Jimmy Aquino

4:30am-9:00am: Axel Foley from the Lost Mythos Theory cast and Health Solo from Lost Revisited Now Podcasts:

[4:30am Intro – Heath and Axel talking Lost

5:00 – Jon Lachonis (DocArzt.com)

5:30 – Talking about Lost Podcasting – From The Mouths Of Podcasters & Bloggers
Jon Lachonis (DocArzt.com), Donald (Donald is Lost), Katy Gowland (What Katy Said), Jed (Losties with Jed and Cara), Matt (Keys to Lost)

6:45 – Lost Theory Roundtable
Donald (Donald is Lost), Wendy (Lost Revisited Now), Hurricane of Feedback Len, Dharma Dummies, Anna (Jacob’s Cabin), Denise, (Jacob’s Cabin)

8:15 – Chris Sparling, writer of “Buried” starring Ryan Reynolds

Alex (It Only Ends Once) and anyone else who will stick around]

9:00am: Ralph from The Dharmalars

11:00am: Curt Yanko from The Black Rock Podcast

2:00pm: Mary Jane Carpenter, Ian Knight, Dennis Acevedo, and Mrs. Mary Anne Sage

3:30pm-4:30pm: Damian Holbrook Senior writer of TV Guide

4:30-6:00pm Jorge Garcia

You can find any LRN episodes here at The LOST Revisited Now on Talkshoe

If you have any LOST thoughts, theories, questions and/or comments, you can contact us at : (Heath) thelostrevisited@gmail.com
and/or (Me) bunnieshatch@aol.com

Also, Heath has been asking on Twitter for their favorite scene of each episode. You can find him on Twitter @heathactor. If you want to find me, mine is @bunnieslrnow.

And you can visit Heath’s blog at heathsworld.wordpress.com for other LOST and/or LRNow podcasting info.

As always, thank you for listening! 🙂

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LOST Thoughts: S6/Ep6 Sundown or Don’t Put All Your Eggs in One Temple

After this episode, there’s something that has kind of stayed with me. It just keeps playing over and over in my head…like some kind of creepy little tune . However, I will try to ignore it and focus on a few thoughts/questions that have come to mind.

Charles Widmore was “banished” from the Island. Sayid was “banished” from the Temple until he was asked to come back because something changed ( the rules maybe?) So, will Widmore eventually be asked back to the Island?

Ash around the Temple…Claire could pass over it. Just more confirmation the infected are not affected. But that is not true of Smocke. What is in that ash that can keep him at bay?

Talking and Smocke : Is there "power" in his words? He said he would only kill those "who wouldn't listen". Or is this merely figurative? It was important enough for Sayid to lie to Dogen about stabbing Smocke first and then he spoke.

Claire could order Dogen to speak English, just like Hurley ordered him out of the Temple hall. Benefits of being a past/present candidate or something else?

Hugo and Jack’s names were mentioned together by Ilana and Sawyer’s separately. Is this because she’s away of the potential “sides” they may occupy… or just me reading too much into it again? 😉

Again the word “safe” or some variation of it in this episode. I counted 5 times. What is the overall importance of the frequency of the use of it, if any?

For his son’s life, Dogen left for the Island forever to do a new”job”. What was this work and the ability that he had to keep Smocke from entering the Temple ( and that he had to be killed over it)?

Another mystery box… a wooden one ( Hi Nancy Drew! 😉 ) . Could what these boxes contain be weapons of some sort that have the potential of killing Smocke? Do they contain other important Island related artifacts? Or are they just fancy containers to hold pencils in? You decide!

Let out of airport jail only to be thrown into a restaurant cooler! Was Keamy who Jin was supposed to deliver the watch to… or someone Martin worked for?

Looks like Smocke and Jacob both used similar bargaining techniques. But Jacob’s deal with Dogen required him commit an act of self-sacrifice for love. Smocke’s required an act of sacrifice of others ( in this case , actual Others) for it. But in the FS, Sayid did something similar to what Dogen did for Nadia. Is this just Island story mirroring or a clue?

Ilana finds the same symbol on the Temple wall that Hugo found earlier that Jacob led him to. It appears to be the Omega, which is the last letter of the Greek alphabet. Behind it was a “panic room” of sorts. Was Jacob showing Hugo where this was because if Jack wouldn’t leave, it would have been the only way to get out when the “end’ (Omega) comes?

Nadia’s picture: Why did they use this picture that the FBI used to get Sayid to catch his friend that was part of an attempted bombing and not the one that Nadia gave him when he helped her escape in Iraq? Was Sayid still involved in stopping his friend and Nadia still a student? Error or another clue?

Getting her first look at the new “Locke”, Kate is understandably dumbfounded. But his look back at her seemed to me of more of a ” I’m not quite sure what you’re about”. As if he is almost being “shielded” from who she might be. If that is the case, then why?


Sayid said the Others put needles into him. Claire claimed that they did the same thing to her. Is this what happened or is she recalling what Ethan did? And do these needles that both of them experienced have any involvement of the 481516342 serum , like what was in the Swan Hatch?

The brother of Sayid, Omar, said that he paid Keamy off and that he keeps wanting interest. Keamy was an extortioner but denied hurting Omar, even seemed indignant about it. So, is it possible that Omar hurt himself because what he originally wanted was Sayid to kill Keamy and his henchmen? Maybe he had it set up, knowing that if Nadia and the kids could be in danger, he would react exactly how he did? Far-fetched … or yet another “long con”? At this point, will we ever really know…lol?

A frightened Ben approached Sayid with means of escape…but is “too far gone”. Is Ben now going to play on Jacob’s team , for real this time, now that he found out he was used by Smocke? Or will Ben be a Wild Card, doing whatever works for him, at the time?

Rain falls after Sayid agrees on the deal he has made with Smocke. Rain often accompanies the Smoke Monster, especially notably in Season One. Jacob was burned up with fire and Ilana took the ash, most likely for more protection.

Let’s see fire made the ash and Smokey brings rain. Fire + Water. Does that mean I have to go back and watch that Charlie episode to figure this out?

That’s all for now. I’m eggcited for Episode 7 this week ( Sorry for that pun. Guess Claire’s not the only confused girl). 🙂

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