Archive for April, 2009

LOST Thoughts : UniLADDERalism


On the last couple Ramble On shows after the TLR Now podcast , the subject of Jacob’s Ladder from Genesis 28 in the Bible came up and how it related to the story. I missed getting in on the conversation originally ,but I still have some thoughts about it. ( And it’s come up a few more times since I was first going to write about it…lol. So “This post’s for you, Glen!” ) πŸ™‚

( Please keep in mind , this is very much the “Cliff Notes” version, for brevity’s sake. Sorry if I leave out a lot of the details.. πŸ™‚

When Jacob had his dream about the angels ascending and descending on the ladder that reached Heaven, he wasn’t in his warm, comfy bed. He was sleeping out in the desert, with a rock for a pillow. And why was he there? Because he was running away from his brother again. But Jacob and his brother,Esau, weren’t just brothers but twins. And they were , shall we say, competitive from the minute they were born. Jacob’s name means “heal grabber” and it was appropriate. Jacob actually grabbed the heal of his older brother to try and pull him back into his mother’s womb so he would be the oldest. But despite his best efforts, Jacob was second. However, a prophecy was spoken at their birth, stating ” The older shall serve the younger.”

This sibling rivalry continued throughout their lives. And it didn’t help that their parents “played favorites”. Esau, the muscular, hairy “Hunter” was his father, Isaac’s pride and joy. Jacob the “Farmer” was somewhat of homebody and his mom, Rebekkah’s tag along.

One day, Esau was out hunting and was hungry. Jacob said he’d fix him a bowl of stew if Esau would sell him his birthright, giving him everything that the first born was entitled to : property, livestock, etc. and to be the head of the entire tribe. Well, Esau actually did it! Just gave it all away. Esau didn’t take it seriously…but Jacob did.

Time passes and Isaac was poor of sight and health. It was his time to die. But he needed to bless the son that would inherit all his wealth and honor. He and Esau were arranging to secretly do this before anyone knew because Esau did sell over his birthright to his younger brother. It still “counted”. But Esau was asked by his father to hunt some game to make his favorite stew. While Esau was gone, Rebekkah , who overheard their conversation, made the stew, put goat skins on Jacob’s arms in case his father touched him to make sure he was blessing Esau. Jacob went into Isaac’s tent, pretended to be his brother, received the inheritance, and left. When Esau returned, they realized that Isaac gave it to the “wrong” son. From that moment on, Esau had it in for Jacob, chasing him for the majority of their lives. But after his “Ladder” experience, Jacob met Esau, without fear of his brother ,but with forgiveness for his brother …and the twins reconciled. ( Genesis 33: 1-20)

But after the dream of the angelic ladder, Jacob wrestled with God (which left him with his hip bone permanently disjointed, and God changed his name to Israel and gave him his purpose : To be the father/spiritual leader of the twelve tribes, consisting of his dozen sons. One of his sons, Joseph, would become vital to the saving of the whole nation (at the time) from famine, as well as being a leader of the nation, second only to Pharaoh. This would mean that all of his family, including his father, would one day be subservient to him. Joseph had seen the famine/leadership role, coming through dreams he had years prior. The brothers loved that idea so much, they threw him in a pit to die.. but changed their mind and sold Joseph into slavery. ( Thanks, bros!) Jacob and his other sons (including Benjamin the youngest) would be instrumental here, as to how these dreams come to pass, whether they liked it or not. A bit of “course correction” , if you will. πŸ˜‰

So, why am I talking about this…lol ? Because there are some fairly “coincidental” parallels between this story and LOST. Some examples…

Hunter or Farmer ( Do these represent the “sides”? , ” You’re a GOOD man, John. You’re a farmer”, Further Instructions, Season 3)
Twins ( Is one of them a “Bad Twin”?)
Someone tricking someone else out of what they believe was rightfully there’s ( The Island)
The repeated leg injuries/walking impairment
Benjamin ( His mother died giving birth to him, as well, The Man Behind the Curtain, Season 3)
Jacob ( spiritual leader?)
The changing of names ( John Locke/ Jeremy Bentham, for example)
Dreams and visions

In Room 23, the film that Karl was forced to watch had the words ” God loves you as he loved Jacob” . ( Not in Portland, Season 3) This is a direct quote from The Bible. But there is also another one that was the flip side of that ” Jacob have I loved but Esau have I hated” ( Malachi 1: 2-3, Romans 9:13) . So, the question is… who is the “Esau” in this story?

Jacob seems to take the heat for stealing his brother’s inheritance. But firstly, the word that was spoken over them at Esau/Jacob’s birth was that the older brother would serve the younger brother. Secondly, Esau gave away his right to it because he didn’t care about it. He didn’t respect it. But Jacob did. And so , God “loved one and hated the other”. This is much like lost-locke-t1Locke accusing The Others of being hypocrites by embracing technology rather than what The Island wants for them. Lastly, Esau tried to steal it , with his father’s help before Jacob could get what was , at this point, legally and rightfully his.

Is this like the ben-t13Ben/Widmore feud? Widmore feels entitled to the Island. It’s his, he claims. But maybe he’s the “Esau” in this story? He’s powerful, he’s “family” but he is not the true “heir”? And for all the grandstanding that Widmore has done…. somewhere inside, he knows that he’s not. Is the real feud not with Ben/Widmore per se but who’s “side” they “represent” .. who they “speaks for “? Or is it simple, old fashioned envy? Will there also be a Jacob/Esau type “reconciliation” at the end, perhaps fighting a bigger foe? Or do they express that divide of the light and the dark, forever at war?

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“LOST Revisited Now” News: Season 5, Episode 14 Podcast & Initial Reaction


Heath and I will be discussing ” The Variable” , Episode 14 of Season 5 of LOST on Friday,May 1st, 2009 at 8EST/ 5PST on Talkshoe . On the podcast, we’ll be chatting about the episode: Thoughts, theories, finds, Lost Alums, etc. You can stop by Live or listen soon after, either on Talkshoe or The LOST Podcasting Network.

If you would like a “preview” of this week’s show, Heath did an initial reaction show early this morning (joined by Donald from Donald is LOST podcast and Glen ) You can check it out on Talkshoe ( LRN Episode 46)

If you want to email us : Heath’s is or me ( Ms. Wendy) at
Thank you to everyone who stopped by the last podcast. 8)

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LOST Thoughts : Happy 100th , LOST!!!


In celebration of LOST’s 100th Episode…I’m going to “Take a walk down memory lane” and share a little something from the previous 99 episodes that made me think..or scared…or cry…or just enjoyed ( because if I wrote everything I liked , I wouldn’t have time to watch tonight’s show) . πŸ™‚

Season One

The Pilot , Part One : Kate and Jack “sewing scene”.
The Pilot, Part Two: The Backgammon Speech
Tabula Rasa : Sayid tossing Sawyer some fruit after he missed the Marshall
Walkabout: Locke at the travel office ( I admit it…I cry every time I see it)
White Rabbit: The introduction of Christian Shephard
House of the Rising Sun : The finding of ” Adam and Eve” … and the dark and light stones
The Moth : Charlie plugging the name of his band in the confessional
Confidence Man : ” It’s about bunnies!”
Solitary: The 1st (and hopefully, last) Island Open
Raised By Another : Charlie’s dream that starts with ” I’m driving a bus…”
ATBCHDI: Hurley and Walt arguing about whether taking 17th place in a backgammon tournament is good or not.
WETCMB: Rose helping Charlie with his depression
Hearts and Minds: The first character crossover ( Sawyer and Boone at the police station)
Special : Michael’s reaction to Brian when he is told “there is something about him”…i.e ” That kid ain’t right!”
Homecoming: That unfortunate copier incident
Outlaws : Sayid telling Sawyer that the reason why the boar took his tarp is “maybe it wanted to go camping”.
..In Translation: ” Boat!”
Numbers: Hurley and Danielle’s meeting in the jungle
Deus Ex Machina: Locke explaining the game of Mousetrap
Do No Harm : The Life and Death montage
The Greater Good: Sawyer reading a car magazine to Aaron
Born to Run: ( Charlie talking about the new album he’s writing) ” This is track two. It’s called ” Monster Eats the Pilot”
Exodus, Part One : Sawyer telling Jack about some guy named Christian
Exodus, Part Two : Locke and Jack talking about destiny, right before they open the hatch

Season Two

Man of Science , Man of Faith : What…turns out to be who …was in The Hatch
Adrift : Sawyer taking out a bullet with his bare hands… Wow, that was gross .. “You got a bandaid?”
Orientation : The Swan film , Starring Marvin Candle
Everybody Hates Hugo: Hurley and Locke had the same boss, Randy Nations
..And Found: Jin and Sun’s eventual “meeting”
Abandoned : Wet Walt…scary!
The Other 48 Days : Ana Lucia confronting Goodwin, over a mango
Collision: Rose and Bernard, together at last…and Jack and Ana, since their airport meeting
What Kate Did: Eko telling Locke about King Josiah… and giving him the rest of the Swan film
The 23 Psalm: A close up look at Smokey
The Hunting Party : Sawyer talking about his favorite leaf
Fire + Water: “You All Every Butties” …It’s horrifying … and yet, I can’t look away! πŸ™‚
The Long Con: Sawyer cons them all …with the help of Charlie (nice twist)
One of Them : Henry Gale, baby!!!
Maternity Leave: Dr. Ethan Rom ?!
The Whole Truth : Charlie “almost” giving Ana Lucia a gun
Lockdown : The Blast Door Map
S.O.S. : Bernard’s proposal to Rose and ” These Arms of Mine”
Two for the Road: Hurley taking Libby to a “secluded” beach… which turns to be theirs…Jin waving in the distance
? : The tape of Charlotte Malkin not being dead… gut wrenching
Three Minutes : The scene of the aforementioned title…
Live Together, Die Alone: Kelvin spent time in The Hatch

Season Three

A Tale of Two Cities: Downtown in New Otherton
The Glass Ballerina : The Red Sox win the Series
Further Instructions : Boone and Locke’s Airport Vision
Every Man for Himself : Bunny number 8
The Cost of Living: Juliet’s cue cards
I Do : Kate doesn’t do Taco got that!
Not in Portland : Richard Alpert as Juliet’s “Recruiter” (with the help of Ethan Rom)
Flashes Before Your Eyes: Desmond’s “interview” with Charles Widmore
Stranger in a Strange Land : Sawyer calling Karl ” Bobby Brady” … and Karl having no idea what he’s talking about
Tricia Tanaka is Dead: Hurley : ” See..he had a name …Roger Workman”
Enter 77 : Mikhail ( Patchy) and a new station
Par Avion : Jack playing football with The Others?!
TMFT : Locke going into his wheelchair for the first time *tear* 😦
Expose‘: The concept of a possible “mole” being introduced (hinted at by Hurley reading Nikki’s script)
Left Behind : Kate and Juliet very brief fight in The Other’s Recreation Hall ( I need to learn moves like that…or do I ? ) πŸ˜‰
One of Us : Ben telling Mikhail not to shoot him and Juliet, as they approach The Flame Station.
Catch 22: Jin’s ” Ghost Story” … and Hurley’s reaction to it.
D.O.C. : Juliet recording , for Ben, her findings about Sun’s pregnancy… and a little unrecorded message for Mr. Linus.
The Brig : ” Sawyer’s my name too.”
TMBTC : Our first look at The Dharma Initiative ( Behind the scenes)
Greatest Hits: Charlie’s expression, right before he dives into the water
TTLG : Jack and Kate… and the moment when I realized ” Everything’s going to change” πŸ˜‰

Season Four

TBOTE : Charlie “visits” Hurley at Santa Rosa.
Confirmed Dead : Mile’s photo of Ben, looking oh so sneaky.
The Economist: Daniel’s rocket experiment ( Now, whether I understand it is another issue entirely πŸ˜‰ )
Eggtown : Kate’s son is… Aaron?!
The Constant : Getting to see a little bit of Desmond’s “time” in the military
The Other Woman : Ben bakes Juliet a ham ( I know…I mention it often. I just find it so creepy/funny)
Ji Yeon : Sun and Jin talking about baby names on the beach
Meet Kevin Johnson : Danielle and Karl are shot?!?!?! Whaaaaa?!
TSOTTC: Smokey like a freight train, pouncing on The Keam Team
SNBH : Jack’s visit with Hurley at Santa Rosa …sad and unsettling
Cabin Fever : Richard Alpert visiting the maternity ward in Tustin, CA
TNPLH, Part One : ” They’re calling you The Oceanic 6″
TNPLH, Part Two & Three : Ben turning the frozen donkey wheel

Season 5

Because You Left : Pierre Chang opens the season
The Lie : Hot Pocket!
Jughead : “Efren Salonga! Efren Salonga!”
The Little Prince : ” Hello. My name is Danielle..Danielle Rousseau.”
This Place is Death : What happened to Montand’s arm
316: Jack and Locke at Simon’s Butcher Shop ( escorted by Jill…”What’s in the bag?” )
TLADOJB: Ben’s menacing look, watching Locke talk to Walt in NYC
LeFleur : Sawyer, Juliet, Miles and Jin sitting around the table outside, talking… and Daniel believes he sees Charlotte
Namaste: Jack being amused at the fact that ” Marvin Candle” is giving him his work assignment and jumpsuit.
He’s Our You : Sayid given a chicken salad sandwich by a 12 year old Benjamin Linus
Whatever Happened, Happened : Kate tells Carole Littleton that she is going back to the Island to find her daughter, Claire
Dead is Dead : ” What lies in the shadow of the statue?”
Some Like It Hoth : Miles watching his dad, Pierre Chang reading a book about polar bears to his 3 month old self. *tear*

What are some of your “moments” , as we await Episode 100? πŸ™‚

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LOST Polls : Finale Focal-point

mswendygravitar8 Over these past fours seasons, the LOST finales have included….(flashback/flashforward-wise)

Season One: Flight 815 Multi-centric
Season Two: Desmond -centric
Season Three: Jack-centric
Season Four: O6 Multi-centric

( No spoilers in comments please, if you already know the answer. Thank you.) πŸ™‚

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“LOST Revisited Now” News: LOST Ramble On Podcast 2 / Mini Ramble /Heath’s New Podcast


Heath and I decided during this hiatus to have LOST Ramble On Podcast 2, on Friday, April 24th, 2009 at 8EST/ 5PST on Talkshoe . On the podcast, we will be joined by many fellow podcasters and fans of LOST . We’ll be chatting about LOST all night ( and probably into the early morning…lol): Thoughts, theories , clues and quotes, LOST Alums… and even a LOST Trivia showdown. You can stop by Live or listen soon after, either on Talkshoe or The LOST Podcasting Network.

If you want to email us : Heath’s is or me ( Ms. Wendy) at

We did a bit of a mini LOST Ramblecast ( 3+ hours) after the ” Some Like it Hoth” episode. If you would like to give it a listen, you can check it out under LRN Episode 44 ” The Nancy Drew Experience” ( 4/20/2009) on Talkshoe Here’s the show description… πŸ™‚

“The Nancy Drew Experience” : We continue the “Some Like It Hoth” talk led by Lost Aholics’ Nancy Drew. Heath and Ms. Wendy also get into more Lost talk with the help of Donald from Donald is Lost, Anna In Indiana (Jacob’s Cabin podcast), and Glen (Everyone’s favorite Jacob’s Ladder fan) Ms. Wendy hangs out with Claire from the cabin and sips the kool aid as she explains The Lost Experience to Glen. We talk Juliet, Desmond, string theory and much much more.

Also, our interview with Mr. Payne sparked an idea for a new podcast for Heath. It is centered around peoples’ Top Ten Movies (and other future list topics) and why they have chosen them) called The Film List. Heath is looking for as many folks who would like to participate. If you would like to send your list to Heath, his email TheFilmList@ or you can find him on Twitter at You can find the podcast on iTunes or listen to the first episode on Talkshoe.

Again, thank you to everyone who stopped by for the last show. 8)

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LOST Video : LOST’s Ocean’s Eleven

mswendygravitar8 ” Ten Stations. Forty Eight Survivors, $3.2 million dollars. No problem.” πŸ˜‰

If you would like to watch some other LOST Related Videos , please click here. πŸ™‚

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LOST Thoughts : ” Some Like It Hoth” ( or All the Best Fanboys Have Daddy Issues)


Before I start, just need to get this out of my system…

( Bill Murray’s ( Nick the Lounge Singer) SNL Star Wars Song, Made for youtube by Dickkeel )

Ok… Onward! πŸ™‚


Miles Straume : “Mommy, can I have a quarter for the vending machine?” Bumming money off people even then! πŸ˜‰
Mom ( Laura) and he are on their own, father out of the picture.
Very first look at his “gift” at an apartment complex ( I’m guessing in California…Ensino?) where he is able to “see” through the door of a man who just had a heart attack ( Mr. Vonner (?), wife Kimberly). Apartment 4…Under the White Rabbit…lies the key? White Rabbit… christianshephard-tChristian Shepard, perhaps?
He’s reading a Sports Illustrated mag with then, LA Dodgers manager, Tommy LaSorda, on the cover.
lost-sawyer-t1Sawyer asks him to remove the tape of him and lost-kate-t1Kate taking Ben to The Others… but Horace stops by before he can ditch it.
He is now in ” The Circle of Trust” , able to go out to Grid 334… Hostile Territory
Radzinski meet him with a gun and has him take the body of Alvarez, whose last thoughts were of a girl named Andrea…before a filling in his tooth “shot” him through the brain ( Good thing the ditch didn’t have a gun!) Chalk it up to magnetism, I’m assuming from the Swan.
Is his pierced, skunky punk look an homage to his role as Kid Omega in the movie, X-Men 3?
His mom is ill, he comes to her bedside with these 3 questions …
1) Why am I this way?
2) How i do the things I do
3) How come you won’t talk to me about my father
Laura says that he didn’t care about them…about you ..and that his father threw them out when he was a baby ( Or was he protecting them from the Purge…or something involving The Incident, considering the Comic Con video from last year?)
He meets a Mr. Gray and tells him that he can “talk” to his dead son, Russell. But Russell has been cremated, ashes spread out on his school’s football field. It’s much better if there is a body. Later on, he gives the man back his money because he thought if the man wanted his son to know he loved him, he should have told him when he was alive. Is this truly his inability to “talk” to Russell, because of his own “daddy issues”…or a combination of the two?
After his initial meeting with Mr. Gray, Naomi pops up out of nowhere, offering him a job with her employer , who has been watching him for some time. (Widmore) A trip to a restaurant, without a meal…just a corpse ( Felix) . He “hears” about …
To deliver a bunch of papers,photos
Pictures of empty graves
And a purchase order for an old airplane
Wonder if the man that he was “talking’ with is the person we saw getting beat up on Ben’s video tape that he showed to Locke? And are the things that were delivered proof of ben-t13Ben’s plan…or Charles’ guilt?

Now he needs to find a very difficult man ( Ben?) to find…help will come through the number of deceased people “residing’ on the Island that can give information on his whereabouts. How much is the bounty on this man? 1. 6 million dollars. The use of “residing” is much like the way Ben said that ” Every living person on this Island will be killed” in the Season Three finale. At first, I was thinking about Dharma and the mass graves. But Naomi was looking for desmond-t1Desmond… and stumbled on the 815’s, in which she told lost-charlie-t1Charlie ” Well, you’re not really dead, are you?” Oh no… lol.
Not long after, he is abducted a week before his trip on the freighter.( There goes that fish taco! ) Men in a black van, headed by Bram…Illana’s “right hand man” on the Island! Bram “You do not want to get on that boat, my friend” …just like Caesar. Don’t know what lies in the shadow of the statue? Then you aren’t ready. Just need to stop him for working for Widmore. He wants double the money for not going …3.2 million dollars. They countered his offer by throwing him out of the van. But before they did, Bram tell him that they can answer those same three questions that he asked his mother…
Who you are
Why he has this “gift”
Know about his father
He says that Bram’s intel is old because he doesn’t care about his father anymore. Did Bram and the Gang get that “old intel” from his mother Laura’s caretaker who answered the door?
Bram told him that he is on the team that is going to win. They don’t want him to work for Widmore, Ben may or may not know about the 3.2 million dollars. So… is this a third interested party?!
He has been able to “hear” soldiers by standing over their graves. He found where danielle-t1Danielle and Karl were buried. He was able to get information from Naomi after lost-locke-t1Locke killed her. It makes you think that he can only hear with a body present. Is it the body itself? Is it the proximity to the place of death? The most curious thing in this scenario is our introduction to him ( Confirmed Dead, Season 4) . He goes to an elderly woman’s home and says what he has to do will cost extra ( much like Mr Gray). He goes into the room of her dead grandson and “hears” him there. Finds money and drugs ( similar to the kind Charlie found in the statues) , takes the cash, leaves the stash. Gives back the “extra” to the grandmother and leaves. But what is different is that he brings a vacuum-like device with him. He hasn’t needed it with any of the others we’ve seen. Was this because there was no body there? Was there a body in the wall, with the money and drugs ( I know, way out there…but hey! ) Does this device make a vacuum in time so he can retrieve those last memories? ( Clue: The picture frames change?) Since he doesn’t “chat with ghosts” but a feeling and recall of someones last thoughts, maybe my theory is only mostly dead. πŸ™‚
For three years, he has been avoiding his father, Pierre Chang, on the Island (but his mom did stand behind him at the cafeteria three days after the Leftbacks arrived.) He finally breaks down and watches his dad, reading his baby self a nice story about polar bears. He did care. (*sniff*)
” Miles, I need you” ” You do?! ” … aww…. But it was to help drive Pierre to not get the new recruits but scientists from Ann Arbor ( Degroot Country!) . Who gets out first…why danielfaraday-tDaniel Faraday, of course! 8)

Another major player in the Milerific episode…


Hugo ” Hurley” Reyes : He makes a nice ham and cheese with garlic mayo.
He can “talk” to the dead too…even play chess with them. Miles tells him it’s not like that. He thinks Miles is jealous because his “powers” are better that his.
He can keep a secret ( Really?) and he’s not a fan of polar bear droppings.
He got Pierre to say he likes country music ( Shotgun Willie)
Both he and Miles fathers abandoned them ( or so Miles was told). But he reconciled with his after coming back from the Island … and he wants Miles to do the same.
He is able to get Miles and Pierre talking, despite them “traveling in different circles”.
He is writing his “New and Improved” version of The Empire Strikes Back” for when George Lucas is looking for a Star Wars follow-up in a couple years.
He has concluded that Miles and his dad are like Luke and his father. That they just need to talk. Luke just overreacted when he found out his father was the equivalent of “Space Hitler” and got his hand cut off. If Luke talked to his dad, then…
The second Death Star wouldn’t have blown up
Boba Fett wouldn’t have been eaten by the sarlacc
and we wouldn’t have The Ewoks .

Now I can not stress this strongly enough, I am by no means a Star Wars expert. But wouldn’t those things, in the context of the story, be bad if they happened?

The Death Star was the headquarters of the Empire domination over the Galaxy
Boba Fett was against the Rebel Alliance . And though he was a child and didn’t fight, Boba came from the clones that were used by Senator Palpatine to destroy the Republic and turn it into an Empire. He is also the one that Lando Calrissian hands over Han Solo to at the behest of Darth Vader. To which, Han is frozen in carbonite and sent to Jabba the Hut.
The Ewoks, despite their uber-cuteness, helped Luke, Han, Leia and the rest from getting beat by the Empire..
And Luke did talk to Vader but he was only interested in killing Emperor Palpatine if it would be a Father/Son takeover of the Galaxy. Same format as before… no ” good side” at play there.

So…is this a clue as to who he is? And wasn’t he playing Mr. Eko from the dark side of the chess board? Like “The Cobra” in Expose’ that he was reading about in Nikki’s script… is the person who has been there all along, pretending to be “good” …. Himself? Yeah, I know…I’m probably wrong… but we’ll see… πŸ˜‰

Other happenings
lost-jack-t2Jack is talking to a suspicious Roger Linus about Kate’s sudden interest in his son. He is erasing a blackboard with a historic Egyptian eras breakdown. Roger tells him to get lost, it’s his ‘turf”. Hey, at least it got him away from drinking beer on the swings! πŸ™‚
” It Never Rains in Southern California” by Albert Hammond and ” Love Will Keep Us Together” by The Captain and Tennille were playing in the van.
Phil has the surveillance tape of Ben Goes to the Hostiles, Starring James and Kate. He was going to give LeFleur the benefit of the doubt (nice guy after all ?) and gets rewarded with a punch to the face. Now what?! Stay tooned… πŸ™‚

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