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LOST Thoughts: S6/Ep 15 – Across the Sea or Symboling Rivalry

Wow…this was quite an episode. Might go down as the most talked about in the series history. So, I might as well talk about it here too. 🙂


( If you want to hear more thoughts, stop by the Lost Revisited Now podcast Episode 107 for the Initial Reaction show for ” Across the Sea”. )


Two Babies, Two Sides
: Mother seemed to want to hold the BIB. Claudia only asked for “him” , first born Jacob , not “them”. “Are you ‘him’?” = Desmond’s question to who he thought was to be his “replacement”, John Locke. Mother looking for a “replacement”. It turned out to be Jacob. Jacob is looking for his “replacement” in the candidate. Or (as Wray suggested in “comments” last week) could the candidate be for something else entirely?


What’s in a Name?
: In some traditions, like Judaism, there is a spiritual connotation to naming a child- that it would be telling of who they are , “their essence”, and would grow to be by the significance of the names chosen for them. In Hopi legend, it is several years and many names given to a child until what seems to best suit who he/she is , personality-wise, that a final name is selected. In Rome, where Claudia was most likely from, the father, not the mother, would decide the name, about eight days later after birth…and that’s if he decided the child would live or not! Where in ancient Egypt, of where we have seen a lot of reference to that culture on the show, the parents would waste not time in naming the baby after their birth, often siting a physical characteristic of the infant. But here…we have no name still for Man in Black. Is he the powerful but not forgiving Henry Gale’s boss “Him”, much like the pure evil figure from The PowerPuff Girls? Will a name be insufficient, at this point? At this point, I don’t mind it remaining a mystery.

Bad Twin! Baaaad! : There are so many stories of twin sagas gone wrong: Jacob and Esau of the Old Testament, Osiris and Set from Egyptian lore, Apollo and Artemis from Greek mythology, Romulus and Remus from Roman mythology ( who’s mother was a princess and father the god of war, Mars, who were raised by a she wolf and only one of them could be king, ending in Romulus killing Remus) .So, what’s one more! 😉

One set of twin from where we get the Gemini constellation, are Castor and Pollux, of Greek/Roman mythology. According to Wiki…

“In the myth the twins shared the same mother but had different fathers which meant that Pollux was immortal and Castor was mortal. When Castor died, Pollux asked Zeus to let him share his own immortality with his twin to keep them together and they were transformed into the Gemini constellation. The pair were regarded as the patrons of sailors, to whom they appeared as St. Elmo’s fire.”

(Well, there have been a few vessels that tend to drop by…or on, the Island.)

Is this what happens with Mother/Jacob, Jacob/Richard MIB/Locke and Sayid, exchanges…even possibly what happens, to some extent, when you become an Other, like Ben- the sharing of immortality? But the “rules” may somehow make immortality…flexible?

Oh, Grow Up!: It’s curious that MIB “saw” his birth mother ( or was it the image “Mother” wanted him to see?) when he was 13 years old. According to Jewish tradition, this is the age of Bar Mitzvah, when a boy becomes a man and becomes responsible for his own understanding of the law, tradition, as well as becoming accountable to morals and ethics. Among the Aborigines of Australia… they send them on … a Walkabout. In some Native American tradition, the rite of passage called Smudge that involves… a sweat lodge. No wonder John Locke was a “custom fit” for the MIB.

Bring Out Your Dead!
: So, MIB could see “Claudia”? Hurley can see the deceased too. And apparently Sawyer…and Desmond, at least as far as mini Jacob is concerned. Is this tied into being “Special”? Mother said that Jacob couldn’t lie and that MIB could because he was “special”… or at least, inferred as such. Hurley is a horrible liar. Sawyer excels at it and is one of the reasons MIB wanted him on his side. So, just because Mother said Jacob couldn’t “see” Claudia” because she was dead…doesn’t mean it was true. Jacob just happened not to be there.

I Wanna Big Wheel, Mom!: We get to at least see the starting of the Donkey Wheel’s presence on the Island. Even if MIB actually got it to work, would he have been able to have left? Would it have shifted time, like it did before? And maybe this is why the Egyptian statue and hieroglyphics show up “later” in the show? MIB taking it for a test run?

Wake Up , Sleepyhead!: Mother disturbs Jacob’s slumber to tell him ” It’s time.” This is where she takes him to the cave, has him drink the wine as the initiation of becoming ” Protector” of the whatever is emanating from it. “You and I are the same now”. Will we see something very similar between Desmond and Ms. Hawking/Mrs.Widmore or even Charles, when he finally “ready” ?

Now You See Me… Now You Don’t: MIB has been looking for that cavern of light for 30 years. Mother can show her “sons” at a moment’s notice. Is it like Jack finally seeing the Lighthouse? It might be that you need to have a certain level of “faith”? And interestingly, in the same way, how was Hurley the only one to find Jacob’s Cabin, despite it moving locations… and he wasn’t looking for it at all?

Tunnel Vision: Looking at that glowing cave, I had to figure there were some kind of references to caves in literary and other “sources”. There are many. I found a fantastic compilation of them here at the studyworld.com site It was quite an interesting and enlightening read …and, for me, made the reveal more “accessible”.

See-ms Like Old Times: The way that MIB was left at the end of the river was very reminiscent of Boone’s vision of Shannon’s death by Smokey in the Season One Episode “Hearts and Minds” . In this episode, there is also a talk between Locke and Jack that is similar to Jacob and MIB in Season Five finale ” The Incident”. MIB ‘s body was entangled in the tree, like how we saw the pilot in The Pilot, after the Smoke Monster actually killed him. Also, his body was tossed aside by the black smoke but we’ve seen Brother since then, just like John Locke is now. In “Hearts and Minds” Locke said to Boone ” What did it make you see?”. Is it the Island? The Smokey Monster? The wacky paste John put on Boone’s head? We still don’t know! Is seeing here like the concept of seeing/showing that Charlie and now Desmond have been utilizing? And is seeing going to be what bridges the gap between what’s real, what’s an illusion and both of Lost’s “worlds?

” You Haven’t Aged a Bit!” : Now, I figure that we are just supposed to chalk up Jack thinking Adam and Eve were only there 40 to 50 years, instead of a couple millennium, because he’s not exactly an expert ( as I know that I talk about stuff I don’t know about all the time…so I can empathize..lol) . But what came to mind was the story of Moses and the Israelites wandering the desert for 40 years and God preserving their clothes so they never fell apart.
Hey, Locke said the Island was a place where miracles happened…so it could work?! 🙂

And lastly, I think I may have solved a major mystery. The cave that contains life, death, rebirth… Mother called ” The Heart of the Island” . The MIB , as far as we know, is a man without a name. In the southernmost part of the United States in Boerne TX, there is a National Park that features The Cave Without a Name. So, does this mean ” The stars at night are big and bright *clap clap clap clap* DEEP IN THE HEART OF TEXAS!

Sorry… I couldn’t resist. 🙂

Now, time to set sail across the sea… to land on Episode 16.

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LOST Thoughts : S6, Ep1 – LA X or The Temporal Triple Lutz ( Part One)



While we are so close to the Winter Olympics, I thought I throw in a little nod to it. 🙂

Similar to what is considered to be the most difficult maneuver in figure skating, LOST has given us an ambitious and impressive new mode of storytelling, the concept of “flash-sideways”, introduced in the Season 6 premiere “LA X” ( or was it …dun, dun, duuuun! 😉 ) .

I’m going to talk about the episode in the three parts, or rotations, that it executed.

Turn 1 : The Plane/Airport

Jack : ” Lookin’ around like he’d been there before” ( see ” Tarps” under LOST Parodies for that reference. 😉 )
This time, Rose is consoling him. She doesn’t have the ring on her necklace. But she actually didn’t either in The Pilot.
Cindy hands him one bottle of liquor instead of two. No back gash this time that needs sterilizing, perhaps?
As the turbulence passes, Jack looks down to where the Island should have been. And it was…but it was underwater this time! How did it get there on the bottom of the ocean, if was truly an island? Was whatever was” holding it up ” cut off? By what? The Jughead? The War? Volcano? Whatever caused this appears to have ” changed the rules”. 😉
Fresh wound on his neck. Could it be he became a proxy because he carried out Daniel Faraday’s life’s work , so he has the “reminder” of his bullet wound or from something we haven’t seen yet.. like ” The War that’s to come”?
Told he wasn’t supposed to save Charlie by Charlie. Suicidal or course correction? Either way, Charlie levels the blame onto him.
It’s been confirmed…pens save lives…or at least, they could, if given half a chance! 🙂
Christian’s body is missing…again. Or is it just his coffin this time?
His cellphone…when is it from this time ( Through the Looking Glass) ?
This time, he knows John is in a wheelchair. He’s even willing to “fix” him. Will he ? ” Nothing is irreversible”.

Kate: Back with Marshall Mars again. Has to eat her in flight meal without utensils. Glad we didn’t have to witness the lasagna eating contest .
Pick pockets Dr. Jack for that very valuable, life saving pen. Just like she did to him with the key from the Haliburton case in Season One and again with the satellite phone in Season Four.
Edward calls her ” Kiddo”. Still think there more to LOST’s most requently used nickname by multiple characters than meets the ear.
She escapes captivity .. at least for now, by trying to pick the handcuff lock with the pick pocketed pen. Edward gets the same smack to the forehead, from a bathroom counter, that he got from the Haliburton case, on the original flight.
She gets a bit of help escaping from Sawyer, who was the first to know about her handcuffs, this time. Is it because he’s a fellow lawbreaker or thinks she’s cute and might somehow meet up later? Most likely, a bit of both.
Before she gets nabbed by the police who have spotted her, she jumps into a cab occupied by none other than Claire! Will she be there to deliver Aaron again?

Locke: This time, got to read that air-safety pamphlet he dropped in The Pilot. Hope it was just as informative.
So, he got to go on his Walkabout this time. Take THAT , Randy Nations ( either that or he’s lying 😦 ) !
Sitting next to Frogurt. I guess it is still Neil Time… no matter the time we’re in. 8)
Exiting the plane, not looking happy to go back to the daily grind at the box factory..if that’s where he’s going.
The airport lost his Box O’ Knives. (Jack) ” Oh, are you some kind of salesman? ” ( Locke) ” Something like that. ” Was it because he was “selling” his story of being a Hunter to everyone, including himself. Or did he go on the Walkabout, in training for his job “selling” to people in hopes of “getting them to where they need to go”?

Hurley: Is now the luckiest guy in the world. And still wins the Lottery. Was it with the numbers we know? Did he still hear them from Lenny? Did Lenny hear them?
Will he get tricked out of his money like he was warned on the plane? Or will he actually make a true friend from this streetwise “stranger”?
Outside the airport, waiting for a cab, was on the phone yelling about someone keeping him from doing business “Does this guy own the whole Outback!?” I wonder who this could be? Obviously, someone with a lot of pull, power and cash. Now, who do we know that could be described that way? Rhymes with Bidwore? That is, if Charles was off the Island before it sank…whenever that was.


Jin: He still has a watch to deliver. Still want to know who he delivered the first watch to in Australia. Could it be the same guy that is giving Hurley a hard time setting up his chicken franchise there?
Still wants Sun to button her sweater. Why doesn’t he just buy her a pullover and give them both a break! 😉
Has a boatload of American cash hidden in his suitcase. Was he planing to take off and live in the US or was this part of the “gift”, along with the watch, for this other business acquaintance of Mr. Paik’s?
Now in airport jail, will he be released to carry out his “mission” for Mr. Paik or be sent back? And will he be alone?

Sun: Likes looking at happy couples on the plane, like Rose and Bernard. (Are they happy because she isn’t sick anymore? On their honeymoon? )
At first, said ” I” then changed it to ” They look so happy”. Is she thinking about a relationship that she might have waiting for her in America, as well? Perhaps with someone who frequented there, even was going to marry a woman who went to Harvard?
Miss Paik?! Whaaat? Not married? Engaged? Kept her maiden name on her passport so it made it easier to disappear once they got to America?

Sawyer: Is he Sawyer still…or ever was? Is he a conman who lost his parents in a murder/suicide? Seems awfully chipper for someone who just killed the wrong man and was kicked out of a continent/country.

Sayid: Going to see Nadia again. Will he get to, this time? Did he have to help the FBI this time or was this under other circumstances?
Kicking in the airplane’s bathroom door to get Charlie out. Sayid’s feet are like a Swiss Army Knife…so very versatile!

Frank: He’s a no show. Seth Norris flying this bird, yet again. So, what happened that he’s supposed to be the pilot of Oceanic 815?

Boone: Seems happy. Shannon didn’t go back with him. Hope he still ” runs a business!!!”. Would still follow Locke.

Charlie: Not nervous about getting caught like the first time we saw him. Seemed more annoyed. Blames Jack for saving him. ” Should have let it happen, man. I was supposed to die. ” Was he suicidal though? If he wanted to OD, way didn’t he snort the heroine? Perhaps he was just trying to smuggle it by swallowing the bag, instead of flushing it? But as he was doing it, the turbulence happened and he choked on it instead?
If he was trying to kill himself, was it because of Liam rejecting the band getting back together or does he somehow aware that his death was necessary for “course correction”?
” Am I alive?” His first words after Jack got the bag out of his throat. The same words written on Dom’s hand at ComicCon.

Desmond: Why is he on the plane????? Can only Jack see him? He claims he’s never seen Jack before. Is he being truthful? Is Jack like Hurley and can see him because he “sees dead people”? Is he traveling like he was in ” The Contstant” and after the turning of the fail safe key? Did he ever actually go to the Island, since it is now underwater? Or did he go to the Island before it “sank” ? Is he with Penny? Is there a little Charlie still?
Said he spoke to the stewardess about moving his seat because the guy next to him was snoring. Was it Cindy and did she know what was going on? Or is the “disappearance” just him going back to his original seat because it had better lighting to read his book: Salman Rushdie’s “Haroun and the Sea of Stories”. 😉

Coming soon..Turn 2 : The Swan Hatch/The Temple. 🙂

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LOST Parody : Johnny Locke

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This parody was inspired by LOST Unlocked’s ” Locketober Special” episode, out this month. It’s a bit of a “love letter” to the man of faith ( and the man of science) played by Terry O’Quinn , based on the #1 hit from 1962, ” Johnny Angel” by Shelley Fabares from “The Donna Reed Show” .

(If you would like to listen to more LOST parodies, click here). 🙂

JOHNNY LOCKE

Johnny Locke… Johnny Locke… Johnny Locke… Johnny Locke
You’re a ” Hunter” to me

Johnny Locke..how I love him
He’s got something that I can’t resist
But that silver box revealed that he no longer exists

Johnny Locke… how I love him
My spine tingles when he throws those knives
Every time I think of him, I hope he somehow survives

I remember in that travel office
Found out he’s paralyzed with teardrops in my eyes
Other fellas might have just given in
But with an orange grin… real ” Walkabout” begins

For Johnny Locke… how I love him
And I pray that someday on t.v.
That together we will see him live his destiny

I remember in that homemade sweat lodge
He dreamed of Boone and bears and crawling up those stairs
Other fellas might have just run away
But he grabbed some hair spray and ran to save the day

Oh Johnny Locke… how I love him
And I pray that someday on t.v.
That together we will see him live his destiny

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You’re a “Hunter” to me
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(Parody of the song “Johnny Angel” by Shelley Fabares {Written by Lyn Duddy and Lee Pockriss, 1962 } New lyrics by Wendy Lincoln, 2009)

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LOST Thoughts : Something Old, Something New…. Theory-wise

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The hiatus is to serve as a time of rest and quiet reflection as we anticipate the return of Season Six.

Yeah, RIGHT!

I learned something quite a while ago : LOST never sleeps.

Besides podcasting at least once a week since the show faded to white, I’ve been visiting blogs, catching up on other people’s podcasts, rewatching episodes, reading LOST centered and LOST related books. And of course, tryin’ to keep the bunny alive here ! 🙂

In my time of “respite” , I’ve reexamined an old theory of mine stopping by the in depth and delightful LOST Tidbit blog (Hosted by KC) and a new theory that popped up just prior to appearing on the equally enlightening and entertaining Lostaholics podcast this past Sunday (Special thanks to Nancy Drew for letting me blabber on about it. 😉 )

The first, an oldie but a goody, about the “magnetic ” presence that is walt-t2Walter Lloyd, sparked from an article found here . This was a comment I left.


Hi KC,

You might have covered this. But if you haven’t, lost-michael-t1Michael in the episode ” Special” Season One, talks to Walt about perspective ( in the terms of art/drawing) But there are quite a few things that might be playing with the audience “perspective’ of Walt’s character, like with the bird crashing into the window/polar bear attack. Both images were in books he was reading. We are to assume that he caused the animals to appear (from our perspective) But from watching the mobisodes too, with the birds crashing right outside of Room 23’s boarded up window, I wonder if what might be special about Walt is more ” magnetic”.

Both polar bears and bird have a physical draw to magnetic poles. It’s almost like a built in compass. Interestingly, I also read that cows supposedly follow magnetic north. There are cows on the island too. Might have been part of some of the experiments ( as well as dinner. 🙂 )

So, is Walt like magnetic north? Does he have magnetic properties that they wanted to study like what was in the Swan Hatch? Why were they studying the properties? To harness it for time travel. Is this why Ms. Klugh asked if he showed up in places he shouldn’t be? Is Walt his own ” Time Machine”? Is he not prophetic but has seen the future with physical eyes through time travel ( Like what he told lost-locke-t1Locke about not opening the Hatch or him in a suit on the beach , surrounded by people who wanted to hurt Locke)?

Could be…or it just might be MY perspective ( for now) ..lol

In turn, Greg from the EYE M SICK blog ( a terrific site in its own right) chimed in soon after, adding on to the theory with the idea that Jacob and His Name Here ( Esau, MIB, Nemesis, AntiLocke, AntiJacob…etc. etc. etc.) represent positive (light) and negative (dark) forces, just like in magnetism ( Great thought, Greg! 8) )

The second is “hot off the griddle” from a rewatch of the episode ” Do No Harm” from Season One. Now, it’s very new, at least to me. And this, despite how many times I’ve seen this episode. ( Another reason why I love this show. 🙂 )

It involves the conjoined scenes between the caves and The Shephards’ rehearsal dinner .
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Charlie : “Where’s shannon-tShannon? She’s his sister. She should be here!”
Jack : “ I DON”T KNOW WHERE SHE IS!”

( Very next scene, Jack and Sarah’s rehearsal dinner)

Marc Silverman, best man: “And here she is, the future Mrs. Jack Shephard.”

This just seemed like a nice transition from present island time to a Jackback. However, Sarah starts talking about her accident. And the SVU that jumped the barrier and smacked into her. That other driver was none other than Adam Rutherford, Shannon’s father/Boone’s step father. In Season Two opener, “Man of Science, Man of Faith” , I remember that their was a discrepancy in the accident story. There was talk that Sarah and Adam we not in opposing vehicles but the same one. Either way, it was really the dialog that caught my attention, this go around.

Jack saying he doesn’t know where Boone’s sister Shannon is coupled with ” Here she is”, drawing attention to Sarah , got me thinking. What if they are saying that Sarah was Boone’s sister too ( in a Shannon sort of way, making the two ladies possible ” blood relation” ) ? Was she the daughter of Adam Rutherford, either knowingly or in the same manner as christianshephard-tChristian Shephard and claire-tClaire Littleton? Ah, yes! Another mysterious LOST connection yet again….maybe..lol.

Will we ever find the answer to either of these theories. I’m guessing yes to the first.. probably not to the second. But that’s ok. The later is the kind of thing that will keep the show going for me , long after the final reel is played.

Any thoughts : You can leave a comment or email me at bunnieshatch@aol.com. Thanks! 🙂

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LOST Thoughts : Boone Nickname Origin # 1

boone-t1 Boone is betting against Sawyerlost-sawyer-t1 that Jacklost-jack-t2 will choke at the First Annual Island Open golf tournament because ” Princess” Shannonshannon-t and he need the sunscreen Mr. Ford just “threw into the pot”.

Princess is slang for someone who is on the spoiled or privaleged side. Someone who would prefered to be waited upon and whom you are often waiting for.

Now, I’m not sure how this would apply to Shannon. Yes, she did come from a family of considerable means. But she was always thinking of how she could be helpful with the rescue effort. Why, one of the first she did was make sure that all her nails were brightly painted and put on her most vibrant bikini, placing herself right in the middle of the chaos (with no thought of her own safety) just in case a plane happened by.

Who’s the “Princess” now, huh? 😉

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LOST Thoughts : The Other Survivors of Oceanic 815 ( According to Jack)

At the press conference in the Season Four finale, Jack said that Boone Carlisle, Charlie Pace and Libby were the other “survivors” of the crash before they succumbed to injuries or died on the Island under different circumstances. Of all the people that actually survived, why choose these three? I believe it is because all of them died an “innocent” death.

Boone died because he fell in that Nigerian drug plane, trying to help Locke, and in the process, made contact (or so he thought) with the outside world. ” Boone was a sacrifice that the Island demanded” said Locke. Jack saw it as negligent homicide. Either way, he died for “the cause”, whether for destiny or rescue.

Charlie Pace gave his life because of his strong belief in the “visions” of Desmond and his equally powerful devotion to Claire, Aaron and his friends. Again, death with the puriest of motive.

* E from Long Live Locke blog made an excellent point that Charlie made contact with Penny and that she might talk. Although, I think it was a strange omission, storywise, that Penny didn’t ask Des where Charlie was when she rescued them. Could be chalked up to a combo of love & shock, but still…

Libby was shot (IMO by accident) by Michael in his “understanding” of how he was to get Walt back from The Others. In one of the mobisodes, Juliet is playing like they never asked him to kill. That he thought of that himself. Is this true or more master manipulation, by proxy, from Benjamin Linus. In either case, Libby was a victim of “friendly fire”. ( Well, at least from the information we have been given so far. 🙂 )

Knowing this, I think that if it was necessary to say some more survived the crash for the coverup (not exactly sure why it was, at this point) then maybe they agreed that this was the Losties’ form of memorial to those who’s bravery would have otherwise been forgotten.

Either that or they just wanted the group to number 8 😉 .

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LOST Thoughts: Shannon Nickname #1

Oops! Sorry I missed this while watching “Walkabout” (Season One). It’s Shannon Rutherford and her first nickname for her brother (?) Boone Carlisle.

Rose is sitting off alone and slightly rocking back and forth. Boone, out of a bit of concern about her,tells Shannon how “someone” should talk to her ( of course, that usually means “someone ELSE” ), she shoots back at him , ” I elect you, Captain America”.

Marvel Comics, the character’s originator, has a great synopsis about C.A. But , very basically, he was an underweight art student who decides to enlist in the army. He becomes a guinea pig in a military experiment by taking doses of a special serum and zapped with “vitarays” to become a “super soldier”. This hightens the maximum human levels his physical strength and reflexes. From there, with his superness , he went around “doing good” & giving the Nazis and The Red Skull, their architect of menace, an extremely hard time.

Jack , reluctantly, is the “someone” that eventually talks to Rose about her “dead” husband , Bernard.
Don’t worry , Boone. You’ve still got “work to do”…..(unfortuately, it’s as “the sacrifice that the Island demanded” 😦 ) .

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